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PMHNP clinicals at NKU: MSN 664L to MSN 669L

NKU's online PMHNP has five 1-credit clinicals, MSN 664L, MSN 665L, MSN 667L, MSN 668L and MSN 669L, for 750 hours with patients across the lifespan. There is no MSN 666L. Preceptors are PMHNPs or psychiatrists, and a psychologist, LICSW or LPCC may supervise as much as 80 hours of therapy or counseling.

Plan five PMHNP rotations

Tell us your next PMHNP course and the ages you still need. We look for psychiatric preceptors whose caseloads fit.

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750PMHNP clinical hours across five courses
80hours of therapy or counseling allowed over the program
PMHNP clinicals at NKU: MSN 664L to MSN 669L. 750: PMHNP clinical hours across five courses; 80: hours of therapy or counseling allowed over the program.
750: PMHNP clinical hours across five courses; 80: hours of therapy or counseling allowed over the program.

The five PMHNP clinical courses

The numbering jumps from MSN 665L to MSN 667L. No NKU source lists an MSN 666L, so a plan of study showing five PMHNP clinicals is complete.

All five are 1-credit courses, each taking a full 7-week session, and each requires the one before it. A delay in any one of them moves every later rotation, which is why the preceptor plan matters as much as the course plan.

PMHNP clinical courses, with 2024-25 catalog prerequisites and hours
CourseTitleListed before itPublished hours
MSN 664LPsych-Mental Health NP Clinical Course IMSN 671, MSN 672, MSN 673, MSN 674Not stated
MSN 665LPsych-Mental Health NP Clinical IIMSN 664LNot stated
MSN 667LPsych-Mental Health NP Clinical IIIMSN 665LNot stated
MSN 668LPsych-Mental Health NP Clinical IVMSN 667LNot stated
MSN 669LPsych-Mental Health NP Clinical VMSN 668L, with MSN 676 before or alongside125 direct patient-care

Hours and the MSN 669L figure

NKU's program page sets 750 hours across the five clinicals, and the 2024-25 catalog gives a single per-course number, 125 direct-care hours for MSN 669L. The remaining four entries state no hours, and MSN 664L is listed as "1 classroom + 0 lab/studio."

Five equal courses would be 150 hours each, so 125 in the final course suggests the earlier ones carry more. NKU does not explain publicly how the pieces reach 750. Plan each rotation from its syllabus, and ask your Clinical Instructor if the numbers do not reconcile. The clinical hours guide sets the PMHNP beside NKU's other tracks.

Hours across the lifespan

Every PMHNP clinical is described as "with patients across the lifespan." NKU's FAQ recommends 170 hours with a pediatric population, 165 with adult patients and 165 with older adults. Those figures add to 500, the program's older total, and NKU labels them recommendations rather than requirements.

NKU adds that ANCC certification calls for hours in every age area. With 750 hours now required, keeping roughly a third of your time in each age band is a sensible reading, though your syllabus and Clinical Instructor have the final say.

Pediatric time takes the most planning, since many adult psychiatric practices see few minors. Look for a preceptor or site with a child and adolescent caseload for at least one rotation.

Who can precept, and where

NKU's FAQ limits PMHNP preceptors to a PMHNP or a psychiatrist. Settings include psychiatric and mental health facilities, outpatient clinics and treatment facilities, and inpatient hospital units.

Time spent in psychotherapy or counseling under a psychologist, LICSW or LPCC is capped at 80 hours for the whole program. The cap spans all five courses, so keep a running total. The setting rules guide covers how the cap is applied, and the preceptor requirements guide lists the rules every preceptor must meet.

Where they sit in the program

NKU's sequence for Fall 2024 admits places all five clinicals at the end. MSN 671 to MSN 674 run one per session, MSN 675 pairs with MSN 664L, then MSN 665L, MSN 667L and MSN 668L each take a session alone, and the MSN 676 PMHNP Capstone pairs with MSN 669L. A Spring 1 2025 starter finishes in Fall 1 2027 after 17 sessions.

Each rotation needs its own Medatrax self-placement request. Up to four preceptors are permitted across the MSN, so a psychiatric preceptor who can stay for two or three consecutive sessions shortens both your search and your paperwork.

Telehealth and certificate students

Telepsychiatry is common in psychiatric practice, but NKU has no published rule on counting telehealth hours. Ask your Clinical Instructor before planning a rotation around it; the telehealth options page covers what to ask.

Both PMHNP certificates, the post-master's version and the NP-to-PMHNP version, run on these same five courses and 750 hours. NP-to-PMHNP students begin with MSN 671 to MSN 675 and must hold a valid NP license and national certification; the NP-to-PMHNP guide covers that path. NKU's 2023-24 catalog listed four PMHNP clinicals, and program pages from that period gave 500 hours, so earlier admits should check their own plan.

Psychiatric preceptors across the lifespan

We look for PMHNP and psychiatrist preceptors whose caseloads cover the ages you still need, and we plan all five rotations so pediatric, adult and geriatric time is spread from the start. Where counseling experience helps, we keep it inside NKU's 80-hour cap.

Each preceptor file reaches your Clinical and Concentration Coordinators with the paperwork complete. The PMHNP program guide covers the rest of the track, and the form below begins your placement plan.

FAQ

Questions NKU nursing students ask

Why is there no MSN 666L at NKU?

NKU has not published a reason. No NKU source, from the 2023-24 catalog to the current program page, lists an MSN 666L; the PMHNP clinicals are MSN 664L, MSN 665L, MSN 667L, MSN 668L and MSN 669L. Those five make up the full 750 hours, so a plan of study without a 666L is not missing a course.

How many hours is MSN 669L?

The 2024-25 catalog lists MSN 669L at 125 direct patient-care hours, taken with or after the MSN 676 PMHNP Capstone. It is the only PMHNP clinical with a published hour figure. The syllabus in the current Canvas course is the binding source, so check it the day the course opens.

Do I need child and adolescent hours for NKU's PMHNP?

NKU recommends 170 pediatric hours alongside 165 adult and 165 geriatric, and notes that ANCC certification requires time in all three areas. It calls the split a recommendation, and the figures date from the 500-hour program. Plan meaningful pediatric time in at least one rotation, and confirm expectations with your Clinical Instructor.

Can a therapist be my NKU PMHNP preceptor?

Not as your main preceptor. NKU's FAQ limits PMHNP preceptors to PMHNPs and psychiatrists. Therapy or counseling time under a psychologist, LICSW or LPCC is allowed, but it counts for no more than 80 hours across the program. Keep a running total so the cap is not passed before your last course.

Does NKU's PMHNP have four or five clinicals?

Five, per NKU's current program page: MSN 664L, MSN 665L, MSN 667L, MSN 668L and MSN 669L, for 750 hours. The 2023-24 catalog listed four, program pages of that period gave 500 hours, and an older NKU Online PMHNP article still mentions four residencies. Follow the program page and your own plan of study.

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